🎊 Virgin Mobile Vs T Mobile

Virgin offers a $55-a-month plan with unlimited calling, data messaging, and Internet access. T-Mobile offers a similar plan for $50 a month. Both throttle excessive data users. Virgin is

Moje doświadczenia z Play: 1. przy automatycznym wyborze operatora - ciągłe przełączanie między sieciami -> drenowanie baterii i non stop naliczanie nowych sesji netu (miałem kilkadziesiąt sesji w ciągu dnia) 2. przy ręcznym wyborze operatora - mimo wyboru, wymuszanie przełączenia na sieć macierzystą, zlecenie wyłączenia odświeżania karty SIM nie pomogło, w niektórych miejscach Warszawy wręcz całkowita utrata zasięgu 3. niezależnie od sposobu wyboru operatora - bardzo często zapchane punkty styku i mimo pełnego zasięgu przychodził SMS, że ktoś próbował się do mnie dodzwonić 4. na zasięgu własnym - bardzo niska jakość połączeń głosowych 5. świetne usługi dodane (Stop Spam, SMS na e-mail, bramka SMS, Play24 w poprzednim wydaniu) 6. obsługa klienta przez portal internetowy na szkolną ocenę 4+ Permanentnie powtarzające się punkty 1-3 zdecydowały o moim odejściu z Play. Uważam tę sieć za dobrą do n-tego numeru, ale nie dla głównego. Zmigrowałem do Orange dla firm, gdzie oferta była OK, ale jakość też słaba: 1. dławiący się internet - zamarzające sesje 2. prędkość netu bardzo niska - w pracy ok. 7 Mbps, w domu 1,5 Mbps. 3. na imprezach masowych telefon kompletnie przestawał działać (dużo ludzi, za mała wydajność sieci) 4. wielokrotne błędy w naliczaniu opłat za usługi, co miesiąc musiałem dokładnie śledzić fakturę (wszystkie reklamacje zasadne) 5. w roamingu zagranicznym jakość taka sobie, net średnio stabilny, niezależnie od operatora 6. obsługa klienta przez portal internetowy na szkolną ocenę 4-. Od roku jestem w Plusie (Plush): 1. przedpotopowe zarządzanie kodami USSD, często coś nie działa lub działa inaczej niż powinno 2. równie archaiczny serwis internetowy 3. po każdej aktualizacji iOS zapomina ustawień MMS-ów 4. ale płacę mniej, a jakość korzystania na poziomie lepszym od obu ww. 5. net zrywa bardzo bardzo rzadko, a prędkość w pracy 140 Mbps, w domu 30 Mbps, poza Polską net też działa bardzo dobrze. 6. bateria schodzi zauważalnie wolniej niż w Play i Orange (co w sumie dziwne, bo Orange to sieć certyfikowana przez Apple, Play też choć tam baterię drenuje roaming krajowy). 7. obsługa klienta telefonicznie woła o pomstę do nieba (szkolna ocena 1=), mailowo lepiej (ocena 3), a przez Plusforum najlepiej (4-). O T-Mobile się nie wypowiem, bo nigdy nie byłem tam z głównym numerem (zniechęciły mnie ceny). Miałem tam jeszcze niedawno tylko net mobilny (10/10/10) i pamiętam beznadziejny serwis internetowy i mobilny. 5 min read. Virgin Mobile offers some unbeatable iPhone deals, but beware the hassles of getting a replacement. Screenshot by Rick Broida/CNET. Back in March, having decided that Android wasn't ^{Virgin Media Freestyle Trade Up Terms and Conditions Please read the following terms and conditions carefully. You should understand that by placing an order to Trade Up you agree to be bound by these terms and conditions. It is recommended you take note of your IMEI number before you Trade Up in case there are any potential problems with your order. Please see the FAQ for help on how you find your device’s IMEI number 1. What is Freestyle Trade Up? Trade up is a service that allows existing Virgin Media Freestyle customers (“you”) to upgrade to a new phone early by using the value in one old phone (a “Device”) to pay off your existing active Freestyle consumer credit agreement (your “Freestyle Loan”) with Virgin Media Mobile Finance Limited governed by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (“Trade Up”). You are able to Trade Up any valid Device; it does not need to be the Device associated to your existing Freestyle Loan. 2. Who Provides Trade Up? The Trade Up services are operated for and on behalf of Virgin Media Limited (Company No. 2591237) at 500 Brook Drive, Reading, RG2 6UU,(“Virgin Media”) by Likewize UK Limited ( Company No. 08401611) with its registered office at Crewe Logistics Park, Jack Mills Way, Shavington, Crewe, CW2 5XF, England,, (“Likewize”) (together “we”, “us” or “our”). 3. Eligibility To place a Trade Up order, you warrant: (i) you are a resident in the United Kingdom; (ii) that you are an existing Virgin Media customer with an active Freestyle Loan with Virgin Media Mobile Finance Limited; (iii) you are the owner of the Device or have obtained express consent from the rightful owner to Trade Up the Device; (iv) the Device is not subject to any previously agreed trade in or Trade Up arrangement; (v) the Device was not purchased from Virgin Media within 30 days prior to placing the Trade Up order; and (vi) the Device is not stolen or listed with us or a third party as stolen. As part of the eligibility process, we will check the Device with CheckMEND, from the suppliers of IMMOBILISE as used by UK Police forces to trace stolen and missing property. If the Device fails any due diligence check we may notify the relevant police authority and we may pass the Device and your details to them and the Device Quote as defined in section 4 below will not be used to settle your Freestyle Loan. 4. Placing your Trade Up order To determine the value of your Device, when placing your order you shall provide a true and accurate description of the Device, including but not limited to the following information: (i) the correct brand/make, model and IMEI number of the Device you wish to Trade Up; and (ii) the condition of the Device that you wish to Trade Up, which shall be classed as either: (a) a working device, which means all features of the Device are in good working order and condition, there is no physical damage to the exterior ( to the buttons or screen) or water damage, the device is able to make/receive calls and SMSs, its battery is included and is able to maintain charge and power up (“Working Device”); &;or (b) a non-working device, which means a Device that is not fully functional ( does not power up, has a damaged screen, case or buttons or has water damage) but includes a battery, is not crushed or bent; has no missing components (“Non-Working Device”). The Device’s Trade Up value (“Device Quote”) shall be solely determined by Virgin Media, Likewize or a third party based on the make a model of the Device. Device chargers and accessories may not be returned with your Device and hold no monetary value. They shall not form part of the condition and cannot be used to complete the Trade Up process. Such Device chargers and accessories will not be returned to you; therefore we recommend you carefully check the contents of your package before returning it to us. Once a Trade Up order is placed, the Device Quote shall be valid for up to 14 calendar days to enable you to complete your order. If the Device arrives after 14 calendar days from the date the Trade Up order is placed, the Device Quote shall be updated – see section You will be sent a free postage pack via Royal Mail after placing your order; this will normally arrive 2-3 working days after your Trade Up order has been placed. We do not accept responsibility for lost, stolen, late or damaged postage packs containing your Device. Proof of sending is not is not proof of receiving. If we don’t receive your Device after 28 calendar days, your Trade Up order will be cancelled. For the avoidance of doubt, your current active Freestyle Loan and any new Freestyle Loan are separate and shall continue to be payable as normal and in line with your recently advised payment schedule. Important Information prior to Trade Up: (i) By placing your order and sending your Device, you will be unable to cancel your order. (ii) Please remove any SIM card and any accessories, including without limitation memory cards, prior to Trade Up. We shall not be liable for any consequences of you not removing the SIM card or accessories, including any charges then occurred. You shall continue to be responsible for such charges; and (iii) We strongly encourage you to backup and store elsewhere any data stored on the phone any memory card, including but not limited to images, messages and videos, on the Device that you wish to retain before to Trade Up. We will not be liable for any damage, confidentiality, loss or erasure of any such data, including personal data, or for any consequences of you not removing your data, including use or disclosure of such data. 5. Trade Up contributing to your Freestyle Loan Once your order has been received, we shall, in our absolute discretion, determine whether the description of the Device when the Trade Up order is placed, is an accurate and true description of the Device received: (i) If it is determined to be a true and accurate description, the Device Quote shall be used to part settle/settle your existing active Freestyle Loan. (ii) If it is determined to not be a true and accurate description or if the Device is received after 14 calendar days from the Trade Up order and the value has subsequently changed, then the Device Quote shall be invalidated and a new revised quote (“Revised Value”) will be offered to you to part settle/settle your Freestyle Loan. You shall be notified of such Revised Value by e-mail and you shall have 5 calendar days from the issue of the Revised Value to either accept or reject the Revised Value. If you do not accept or reject the Revised Value, we shall assume you accept the Revised Value and this will be used to part settle/settle your existing active Freestyle Loan. If you do reject the Revised Value, we shall return the Device back to you free of charge. You have 14 calendar days from your acceptance or rejection of the Revised Value to cancel your new Freestyle Loan. For the avoidance of doubt, the Device Quote or, if accepted, the Revised Value shall only contribute to your existing Freestyle Loan. Any outstanding amount on your existing Freestyle Loan remains payable in line with your recently advised payment schedule until paid off completely. This balance can be paid by contacting Virgin Media and making a debit or credit card contribution. Payments in relation to your existing Freestyle Loan will not be taken for up to 30 calendar days from the date your Trade Up order was placed to allow us to process your order. After 30 calendar days, your payment shall resume and a revised payment schedule will be sent to you by email. If the Device Quote or Revised Value is higher than the balance of your existing Freestyle Loan, a credit for the difference between the Device Quote Value or Revised Value and the outstanding balance of the Freestyle Loan shall be paid into the bank account, used to pay your existing Freestyle Loan monthly payments, within 10 working days. 6. Privacy and Data Protection Where applicable, any data collected during the course of the Trade Up services will be processed and stored wholly in accordance with applicable data protection laws and regulations. The Promoter will use reasonable endeavours to ensure no data will be processed or stored outside the EEA or by third party organisation, except for the administration of the Trade Up services. By placing a Trade Up order with us, Virgin Media and/or Likewize may use your personal information to contact you about special offers about goods and services that may be of interest to you. Any personal data will only be used in accordance with Virgin Media’s or Likewize’s privacy policy, which can be viewed here: (i) Virgin Media’s Privacy Policy ; and (ii) Likewize’s Privacy Policy . General We reserve the right to modify these terms and conditions from time to time. If we make changes to the term and conditions of this Agreement, then we will notify and make available such revised terms and conditions. Ownership of the Device shall only pass to us once we have received the Device and when the Device Quote or Revised Value has been accepted and payment has been dispatched to you. Subject to in no event shall Likewize, Virgin Media, their affiliates, directors employees, agents or licensors, be responsible or liable for direct, indirect, special or consequential damages, arising in any way out of the Trade Up Services, including but not limited to, (a) any technical difficulties or equipment malfunction (whether or not under Virgin Media or Likewize’s control); (b) any theft , unauthorised access or third party interference; (c) any part the Trade Up order or after order process that is late, lost, altered damaged or misdirected (whether or not after receipt by Virgin Media or Likewize) due to any reason beyond the reasonable control of Virgin Media or Likewize; (d) any tax liability incurred in connection with the Trade Up; or (e) use of the Trade Up services. By placing your Trade Up order, you agree, to the extent permitted by applicable laws, and except as provided herein, to release and hold Virgin Media and Likewize harmless from any and all liability whatsoever for any injuries, losses or damages of any kind arising from participation in or in connection with the Trade Up including without limitation, acceptance, receipt use and/or misuse of the Trade Up services. Virgin Media and Likewize reserve the right to invalidate any Trade Up order where there is suspected fraudulent use of the Trade Up services. Nothing in these terms and conditions his agreement shall limit or exclude Likewize’s or Virgin Media’s liability for death or personal injury resulting from our negligence and any other liability that cannot be excluded or limited by English law. We are not liable or responsible for the failure to perform the Trade Up services, if in any way the Trade Up services are not capable of being conducted as reasonably anticipated due to any reasons beyond our reasonable control, including without limitation the act of default of any third party supplier and/or our compliance with any applicable law or regulations. This agreement and any dispute or claim arising in relation to the same shall be governed and construed in accordance with English Law and is subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of England.} In this Guide About Virgin's Switch to Boost Mobile Best Virgin Mobile/Boost Mobile Plans & Deals Switching to a Different Carrier Article Summary Virgin Mobile was an MVNO that operated on Sprint's network until February 2020, when it was shut down in favor of Boost Mobile.

Ugg macrumors 68000 #1 I've been a VM customer for 5 years. I'm perfectly happy with their CS and pricing but not so hAppy with their coverage. I don't like the fact that the phone VM offers is locked to VM. I like paying $30 rather than $45 but am wary of ST's shoddy CS and heavily accented CS people. I do like that the ST phone will be unlocked, increasing its resale value. Any thoughts? #2 Straight Talk does indeed have more coverage then Virgin Mobile, but at a higher monthly rate. Both Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk offer 'unlimited' data although Straight Talk reserves the right to terminate your account for obsessive use. Virgin Mobile states that your account will only be throttled until the next billing cycle with no fear of termination. If tethering is one of your ideas of a feature then Straight Talk is not for you. They have no official tethering plan and reject any sort of tethering in their TOS. Virgin Mobile does support tethering for $15 additional dollars a month on top of the normal plan rates with no over-usage charges. It's your call really. No tethering and higher monthly rates for more coverage[Straight Talk], or tethering and lower monthly rates with less coverage[Virgin Mobile]. Ugg macrumors 68000 #3 I'm tempted just to wait until the next version of the iPhone comes out and then see if the price on the 4s is reduced. I like VM but hate the crappy Android phone I have. Now that there are finally prepaid iPhone options, it's almost like I have too many choices... #4 I'm tempted just to wait until the next version of the iPhone comes out and then see if the price on the 4s is reduced. I like VM but hate the crappy Android phone I have. Now that there are finally prepaid iPhone options, it's almost like I have too many choices... I suggest that you wait til the new iPhone is released instead of shelling out above for the 4S. #5 I suggest that you wait til the new iPhone is released instead of shelling out above for the 4S. That doesn't mean Virgin Mobile will be getting the next iPhone right away. #6 That doesn't mean Virgin Mobile will be getting the next iPhone right away. Exactly! Activated mine today, got AppleCare+ on it, and I am loving it. To the OP - Virgin Mobile is an official carrier now, so you can get MMS built in, along with Visual Voicemail. Visual Voicemail is a must-have feature for me, so I loved that. And to counter your thoughts about the phone being locked to VM - I had the same thoughts too, but then I realized that I'm going to keep my iPhone for awhile. I don't think resale values will hurt, because there are many folks out there who want a prepaid option. There were long lines at the Best Buy mobile section near me...so it's definitely popular. My two cents! #7 I'd go with ST. $15 more is worth the coverage and way better data speeds with ST since it uses AT&T. #8 Is virgin mobile a GSM or CDMA carrier. #9 is virgin mobile a gsm or cdma carrier. cdma. #10 I've been a VM customer for 5 years. I'm perfectly happy with their CS and pricing but not so hAppy with their coverage. I don't like the fact that the phone VM offers is locked to VM. I like paying $30 rather than $45 but am wary of ST's shoddy CS and heavily accented CS people. I do like that the ST phone will be unlocked, increasing its resale value. Any thoughts? Go with ST... unlock has a value. #11 I'd go with ST. $15 more is worth the coverage and way better data speeds with ST since it uses AT&T. This exactly. Ugg macrumors 68000 #13 If tethering is one of your ideas of a feature then Straight Talk is not for you. They have no official tethering plan and reject any sort of tethering in their TOS. Virgin Mobile does support tethering for $15 additional dollars a month on top of the normal plan rates with no over-usage charges. It's your call really. No tethering and higher monthly rates for more coverage[Straight Talk], or tethering and lower monthly rates with less coverage[Virgin Mobile]. Tethering is an issue and I didn't realize that VM offered it for only $15. I got an ATT iPad3 recently and like the speed of 4G but it is $30 a month although ATT has better coverage here than VM does. And to counter your thoughts about the phone being locked to VM - I had the same thoughts too, but then I realized that I'm going to keep my iPhone for awhile. I don't think resale values will hurt, because there are many folks out there who want a prepaid option. There were long lines at the Best Buy mobile section near me...so it's definitely popular. My two cents! I tend to keep my gadgets so I guess resale is sort of pointless and it is an iPhone so it will be easier to sell than some generic Android phone. Go with ST... unlock has a value. I like unlocked mostly because I hate having the phone company dictate how I can use my phone. It's especially galling to pay full price to VM and then have it locked down to their network. Being able to use it in Europe would be great but the VM phone would be limited to Skype on wifi. This is probably my single biggest issue. #14 Yes it is better unlocked, like factory unlocked where you can use it over seas with any SIM carrier provider. I assume since the VM version is CDMA, but purchased at full price the GSM part is unlocked. PS: The OP should try a tmobile or AT&T SIM to see if the GSM part is unlocked since he bought off his 4S at full price from VM. #15 Well if your already with VM and current coverage isn't an issue for you I would stick with them. The whole unlock thing of the VM may not be an issue if it's a 4S your getting. As far as I know the phone will be GSM unlocked so you can still travel over seas and pop in a foreign sim. Worst case give VM a call i'm sure they can unlock GSM portion since Sprint can. The only thing that won't work is domestic GSM carrier's (ATT + T-mobile) Also I don't think VM not getting the new iPhone isn't a question. Sprint is using them to fulfill their iPhone order's from Apple so it would only be logical they get all new iPhone release's since Sprint now owns them. Ugg macrumors 68000 #16 Well if your already with VM and current coverage isn't an issue for you I would stick with them. The whole unlock thing of the VM may not be an issue if it's a 4S your getting. As far as I know the phone will be GSM unlocked so you can still travel over seas and pop in a foreign sim. Worst case give VM a call i'm sure they can unlock GSM portion since Sprint can. The only thing that won't work is domestic GSM carrier's (ATT + T-mobile) Also I don't think VM not getting the new iPhone isn't a question. Sprint is using them to fulfill their iPhone order's from Apple so it would only be logical they get all new iPhone release's since Sprint now owns them. I just emailed VM to ask about whether I could use the phone in Europe by installing a local simcard. I'll let you know what they say. At this point I'm very much leaning towards the VM iPhone. #17 Not sure why people always say Virgin Mobile is "cheaper" by $15/month. It's only "cheaper" if you plan on using less than 300 minutes a month with Virgin Mobile. 300 minutes. That's all. This 300 minutes includes nights and weekend minutes so not many minutes at all. The "average" cell phone user uses 650 plus minutes a month. That's nights and weekends also. So if people want to compare apples to apples. Virgin Mobile is $50 unlimited talk/text/data (throttled at vs. straight talk $45 (unlimited talk/text/2GB soft cap. #18 I just emailed VM to ask about whether I could use the phone in Europe by installing a local simcard. I'll let you know what they say. At this point I'm very much leaning towards the VM iPhone. I don't see why they couldn't. All the major carrier's do it now with their own stipulations. However, if your buying the phone outright it should come unlocked. However let us know what they say. Not sure why people always say Virgin Mobile is "cheaper" by $15/month. It's only "cheaper" if you plan on using less than 300 minutes a month with Virgin Mobile. 300 minutes. That's all. This 300 minutes includes nights and weekend minutes so not many minutes at all. The "average" cell phone user uses 650 plus minutes a month. That's nights and weekends also. So if people want to compare apples to apples. Virgin Mobile is $50 unlimited talk/text/data (throttled at vs. straight talk $45 (unlimited talk/text/2GB soft cap. Although this may be true, Straight talk has a reputation of shotty customer service as well as kicking you off if you exceed the cap. Plus for some people 300 minutes is excessive if you only use the phone in emergency's. Just because it does not satisfy your needs does not mean it won't satisfy someone else's. Last edited: Jul 2, 2012 Ugg macrumors 68000 #19 Not sure why people always say Virgin Mobile is "cheaper" by $15/month. It's only "cheaper" if you plan on using less than 300 minutes a month with Virgin Mobile. 300 minutes. That's all. This 300 minutes includes nights and weekend minutes so not many minutes at all. The "average" cell phone user uses 650 plus minutes a month. That's nights and weekends also. So if people want to compare apples to apples. Virgin Mobile is $50 unlimited talk/text/data (throttled at vs. straight talk $45 (unlimited talk/text/2GB soft cap. For many people, 300 minutes is more than enough. I've had VM for ~5 years and in that time have only exceeded the limit maybe 4 times. #20 Not sure why people always say Virgin Mobile is "cheaper" by $15/month. It's only "cheaper" if you plan on using less than 300 minutes a month with Virgin Mobile. 300 minutes. That's all. This 300 minutes includes nights and weekend minutes so not many minutes at all. The "average" cell phone user uses 650 plus minutes a month. That's nights and weekends also. So if people want to compare apples to apples. Virgin Mobile is $50 unlimited talk/text/data (throttled at vs. straight talk $45 (unlimited talk/text/2GB soft cap. I use less than 300 talk minutes a month. Why should I care if I get more minutes if I pay more? Even if it cost only $5 more for unlimited minutes, if I never use more than 300, then that is money wasted. That "warehouse shopping mentality" causes many people to spend more money on quantities that they don't need because "it is a good bargain". Across America husbands are telling their wives, "if you save us any more money, we'll have to declare bankruptcy!" #21 I know it's not on your radar, but if I were to dive into the world of prepaid service (and I'm seriously considering it after VZW's announcement of axing grandfathered unlimited data), I'd go with T-Mobile's $30/month for 100 mins of talk, and unlimited (5 GB unthrottled) data/messaging. I do talk a lot, but I think I'd be able to make that lifestyle change of using Wifi spots + SIP Droid to make phone calls. They also have a $50/month unlimited data (2GB unthrottled), voice and text. The beauty in prepaid is you can switch carriers as many times as your heart desires, so the premium price of an unlocked phone IMO might be worth it over one locked to Virgin. #22 I know it's not on your radar, but if I were to dive into the world of prepaid service (and I'm seriously considering it after VZW's announcement of axing grandfathered unlimited data), I'd go with T-Mobile's $30/month for 100 mins of talk, and unlimited (5 GB unthrottled) data/messaging. I do talk a lot, but I think I'd be able to make that lifestyle change of using Wifi spots + SIP Droid to make phone calls. They also have a $50/month unlimited data (2GB unthrottled), voice and text. The beauty in prepaid is you can switch carriers as many times as your heart desires, so the premium price of an unlocked phone IMO might be worth it over one locked to Virgin. Very well said. Ugg macrumors 68000 #23 Here's my reply from Virgin Mobile: Hello Ugg, Thanks for contacting Virgin Mobile Customer Care. Regarding your inquiry, Virgin mobile iPhones cannot be used internationally. You may find somebody that will succeed in unlocking your iPhone for use in Europe, but Virgin Mobile neither recommends you do it nor warranties it will work. Sorry. Regards, Humberto C. So, the response is better than I thought it would be but VM is still locking down a full-priced iPhone and that sucks. I haven't made my mind up yet but thanks to the poster who recommended T-Mobile. Straight Talk is $5 cheaper but I'm not sure that Carlos Slim, one of the richest men in the world, or the Waltons, need to be enriched any more than they already are. So, I've narrowed it down to either VM or T-Mobile. #24 Get the evo v (299) or the one v(199). There the first truly good phones that came out of virgin mobile. Both run android The Evo V is pure garbage. My fiancé has one and it needs rebooting constantly, camera app is horrible, 3D imagery is a joke, and the predictive text can't be turned off. #25 I know it's not on your radar, but if I were to dive into the world of prepaid service (and I'm seriously considering it after VZW's announcement of axing grandfathered unlimited data), I'd go with T-Mobile's $30/month for 100 mins of talk, and unlimited (5 GB unthrottled) data/messaging. This is the plan that I currently have with my 4S and I sometimes have to pinch myself to actually believe that I only pay $30 per month after getting ass raped by AT&T and Verizon for the past 5 years.

100 minutes free ($0.35/min after) As you can see, T-Mobile comes out slightly ahead. Its Magenta Plan offers free data and texting abroad for $70 USD per month. AT&T’s Passport Plan is also $70 USD per month and includes free data and texting and just slightly more expensive calls. Verizon is still lightyears behind both. EE vs Virgin Media: average broadband speeds. EE’s broadband speeds: 10Mbps, 36Mbps, 67Mbps, 145Mbps, 300Mbps and 900Mbps. Virgin Media’s broadband speeds: 54Mbps, 108Mbps, 213Mbps, 362Mbps, 516Mbps and 1,130Mbps. In terms of speed, Virgin Media comes out top – indeed, it’s the fastest widely-available provider in the UK. Your study is flawed. All you've proved is that the two services operate differently, and that your speed varies. But you still don't know if your account is being rate limited when compared to other Virgin users. A valid test would use two Virgin accounts, one with little usage, one with lots. Stick the two USB antennas into two PCs. GCKDdcD. 86 485 223 402 217 305 221 107 158

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